What are the possible future scenarios for South Africa politically? Gareth Cliff and Jack Motlanthe speak to Greg Mills and Ray Hartley about their new book, ‘The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly’. They speak about what is required for a ‘Good’ outcome, discuss the ‘Bad’ scenario… and how difficult it is to get out of it. They also talk about how we are currently living in the ‘Ugly’ scenario, with the failures of government we are dealing with daily. Powered by Podcast Party.