Bongani Tau is joined by Public Policy Specialist focusing on Local Economic Development and Government Institutional Planning and lecturer at North West University, Dr Kagiso TK Pooe, to discuss the science of Local Economic Development, why it has failed in the past, ethics, and the concept of servant leadership to solve our problems as a country intrinsically. Dr Pooe also shares his PhD journey and the value of character for leadership success, and compares thriving economies to ours and how people in leadership need to balance ethics with intellectual education.