Gareth and Phumi are joined by Assistant Editor for Breaking News at News24, Sheldon Morais, and the new CEO of the Institute of Race Relations (IRR), John Endres. They have a heated discussion about the State Capture report, the global inflation and interest rate environment, and Cyril Ramphosa being a mediocre president.

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03.02.22 Pt 1 - Phumi tries her best to convince Gareth to partake in the population census. Mbulelo recently bumped into a former colleague and couldn’t recognise her. If there’s one thing one should never do, it is to have an entanglement with a colleague and not tell HR!

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