10.08.23 Pt 2 - Gareth and Phumi are joined by Anthea Jeffery to discuss the ANC’s determination to turn South Africa into a socialist society. Gareth also catches up with Cape Town mayor Geordin Hill-Lewis on the taxi strike.

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24.08.22 Pt 2 - Gareth has a candid conversation with Larry Elder who is a talk show host, political commentator, and black conservative voice in America. They discuss race in America, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the conservative movement, and how awful California is.

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