If you google 'Gareth Cliff’, one of the first links that comes up is an article from November 2020 about an interview I did with David Icke, the well-known conspiracy theorist on my eNCA TV show, So What Now. The show was specifically created to "highlight diversity of thought and talk to people with different opinions - leaders, opinion makers, alternate voices and people who don’t think like you and me - because great minds don’t always think alike"...

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When lockdown started we saw a lot of social media posts "We are led". But are we? How do we balance saving lives with saving livelihoods? Leadership, the economy, conspiracy theories - hear different opinions and you get to make up you own mind. Gareth chats to Giulietta Talevi, Phumlani Majozi, John Vlismas & David Icke.

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