16.11.22 Pt 2 – This week Gareth has a candid conversation with Thomas Grant KC – an English barrister, author and polemicist. His latest book on Sir Sydney Kentridge, called The Mandela Brief, is the incredible story of one of Apartheid South Africa’s most infamous trials. In this discussion, he and Gareth talk about Kentridge, the law, oligarchs, mock trials of the dead and lots more.