Aspasia Karras is back from France, she catches Mabale up on all her gallivanting. Then they speak with two South Africans who both have a story to tell about what it takes to become successful. Celebrity chef Lesego Semenya has catered for The British High Commission and Liverpool FC, whereas Sarah Jane Nicholson built her company from the ground up and now she manages some of SA’s most successful musicians including MiCasa, Goodluck and Nonki Phiri.